{"id":5835,"date":"2026-08-23T20:22:13","date_gmt":"2026-08-23T20:22:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lumeamara.online\/?p=5835"},"modified":"2026-08-23T20:22:20","modified_gmt":"2026-08-23T20:22:20","slug":"how-do-you-figure-out-if-microplastics-are-affecting-pregnancy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lumeamara.online\/?p=5835","title":{"rendered":"How do you figure out if microplastics are affecting pregnancy?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This story was produced and written by Kathleen Davis with the assistance of the Journalism &amp; Women Symposium (JAWS) Health Journalism Fellowship, supported by The Commonwealth Fund<\/p>\n<p>Toxicologist Sam Adams was thrilled to find out she was pregnant in the summer of 2025. Like many first-time parents, she had a long list of things to do to prepare for the baby. But she also needed to make big changes at her job: she stopped running experiments in the lab, and got all of the spaces she worked in assessed for air quality<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s because Adams studies how particulate matter\u2014solid particles in air pollution\u2014affects people during <a href=\"https:\/\/lumeamara.online\/?p=5816\" title=\"Adnexal Lesions in Pregnancy: Ultrasound Helps Assess Cancer Risk\">pregnancy<\/a>. One of those particles is microplastics<\/p>\n<p>Microplastics vary in size, from visible to the human eye at 5 millimeters, down to a nanometer. Nanoplastics are even smaller. In the research community, they\u2019re collectively known as MNPs, micro- and nanoplastics<\/p>\n<p>MNPs have been documented in human brains, hearts, and reproductive organs. They\u2019ve been found circulating in our blood stream. In petri dish studies of human cells, they\u2019ve been tied to inflammation, oxidative stress, and even carcinogenic effects<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is scary work to do whether or not you\u2019re pregnant,\u201d Adams says of working in an air pollution lab. \u201cBut I also knew that I wanted to have a baby, and we were going to figure out a way to do both at the same time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Her baby, Joey, was born in April. And while she takes precautions to limit microplastic exposure at home, like using HEPA air filters, some things are unavoidable. She\u2019s had to rely on bottled water for herself and Joey because of concerns about the tap water in her Newark, New Jersey condo<\/p><figcaption>Illustration by Abi Stevens for Science Friday<\/figcaption><p>We rely on plastic for many things in our daily lives. And while it\u2019s valued for its sterility and flexibility, its utility is also its curse. Plastics are meant to be resilient. So when a product\u2019s useful life is over, the longer journey begins. A discarded bottle or container may start a new life as part of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/abs\/pii\/S0921344922002087?via%3Dihub\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the 5% of plastic that gets recycled<\/a> in the U.S. But most likely, it\u2019ll be incinerated, put in a landfill, or simply left to disintegrate.<\/p>\n<p>It can take decades for plastic to break down, and along the way it may be beaten to bits by ocean waves, scorched by UV radiation, or crushed by tires on a highway. The resulting bits of plastic have been documented just about everywhere in our environment, from waterways to remote mountaintops to the air itself<\/p>\n<p>And we\u2019re starting to understand how MNPs end up in our bodies. They may be ingested through the food we eat\u2014studies have found that crops can absorb plastic particles in the soil through their roots, and ultraprocessed foods can take on high concentrations of MNPs from manufacturing and packaging. We may also be breathing plastic particles in through our noses, sending them into our circulatory system and organs.<\/p>\n<p>But even as evidence of microplastics in our bodies mounts, it\u2019s not clear how they affect our health. And in this small, nascent field of science, just a handful of people are dedicated to uncovering how plastic particles affect one of the most sensitive and emotional parts of life: pregnancy and fetal development<\/p>\n<h2>Plastic in the placenta<\/h2>\n<p>At the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Dr. Enrico Barrozo has been studying MNPs in the placenta. A specialist in preterm environmental exposures, he worked on a widely circulated 2024 study analyzing 62 human placentas post-birth. Microplastics were found in every single sample<\/p>\n<p>The placenta provides a unique window into how the body processes contaminants because it\u2019s grown with the specific purpose of keeping a fetus alive, and can be studied in full after birth without harm to the person who grew it<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s essentially the maternal and fetal interface,\u201d Barrozo says. \u201cPeople often compare it to a filter between the baby and the mom.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Barrozo is investigating possible links between the MNPs in placentas and certain pregnancy outcomes, like premature birth. Data from his and other labs have shown placentas from babies born prematurely to have higher plastic concentrations than placentas from full-term births<\/p>\n<p>Plastic particles have also been found in testes, follicular fluid, breast milk, and even meconium, the first bowel movement of a fetus or newborn. Still, Barrozo cautions that more data are needed to know if these MNPs are harming fetuses in any way<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe question we always get is whether or not they actually make it to the baby,\u201d he says. \u201cThere have been a lot of alarmist, sensationalist headlines about this. I do try to stay on the side of caution.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lumeamara.online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/PVC_NPs_Placental_Cells_BarrozoLab.png\" alt=\"A dark background filled with small blue blobs and occasional bright green dots of varying sizes.\"><figcaption>A visualization of PVC nanoplastics in placental cells, with cell nuclei shown in blue and nanoplastics in green. Cells were exposed to PVC nanoplastics for 48 hours, then washed thoroughly to remove unbound particles before imaging. Credit: Barrozo Lab<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>While studying human tissue samples can tell us where micro- and nanoplastics are located, it can\u2019t tell us much about how they travel within the body. Understanding that mechanism is the focus of Dr. Phoebe Stapleton at Rutgers University in New Jersey. She runs the lab where Sam Adams is a graduate student<\/p>\n<p>Stapleton didn\u2019t set out to study plastics. A toxicologist, her background is in how air pollution affects cardiovascular function. When she arrived as an associate professor at Rutgers, she became interested in if\u2014and how\u2014inhaled plastic particles cross the placenta, from mom to baby<\/p>\n<p>In the fall of 2020, she was studying polystyrene, a common polymer used to make plastic cutlery and styrofoam. Her team found that in rats, inhaled polystyrene nanoplastics cross the placental barrier that separates maternal and fetal blood. That means the placenta\u2019s key function, keeping pollutants from reaching the fetus, wasn\u2019t holding up when it came to plastic. That discovery felt like taking a blindfold off, she says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAfter that, your work kind of changes,\u201d Stapleton says. \u201cAnd you realize just how much plastic exposure people are having, just how much we\u2019re surrounded by it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Stapleton\u2019s lab is now focused on identifying how plastic particles may be affecting pregnancy and lactation. One area she\u2019s looking at is glucose metabolism, which is important for hormone regulation and weight management. Glucose is also necessary for fetal growth. Stapleton\u2019s lab has found that rats exposed to high levels of microplastics have smaller pups. Her colleagues have theorized that MNPs could stress the placenta and cause it to keep more glucose to itself, which could restrict the growth of the fetus, but early research is inconclusive.<\/p><figcaption>Dr. Phoebe Stapleton\u2019s lab at Rutgers University\u2019s Environmental and Occupational Health Sciences Institute. Credit: Kathleen Davis<\/figcaption><p>Using rats to study human health is not a one-to-one comparison, but it\u2019s pretty close, Stapleton says. And for now, it\u2019s the best model for experimentation. A major issue for studying microplastics in humans is that the scientific process is upended. Nobody wants to volunteer to be dosed with high levels of microplastics for science. And, if microplastics really are inside all of us, there\u2019s no control group.<\/p>\n<p>The same is true when it comes to PFAS \u201cforever chemicals,\u201d which can persist in nature indefinitely. They\u2019re present in a wide range of products, including plastic packaging, and are estimated to be present in the blood of nearly all Americans. Unlike microplastics, there\u2019s a large body of research that ties PFAS to negative health effects, including increased risk of cancer, hormonal interference, and decreased fertility.<\/p>\n<p>While PFAS chemicals can be present in plastics, there\u2019s not substantial proof that they\u2019re leaching from microplastics into human tissues<\/p>\n<p>Stapleton says it might take generations before we see wider health effects of microplastics playing out outside the lab<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn my mind, we\u2019re at this moment because we haven\u2019t hit the dose yet that\u2019s going to lead to those health effect outcomes,\u201d she says<\/p>\n<h2><b>Spotting plastic among the plastic<\/b><\/h2>\n<p>The field of micro- and nanoplastics in human tissues is \u201ca very, very small scientific world,\u201d Stapleton says. And it\u2019s only about 10 years old<\/p>\n<p>Other labs use a series of chemical washes to break down a biological sample until just plastic remains. That plastic is then blasted at 600 degrees C, and the gaseous signatures it gives off are analyzed to figure out which polymers are present<\/p>\n<p>But each method has limitations. The first is good at detecting what\u2019s in a sample, but not how much. The second has a possibility for data interference, as some plastics have a similar chemical makeup as the lipids in our bodies<\/p>\n<figure>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lumeamara.online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Phoebe-Stapleton-lab-small.jpg\" alt=\"A woman sits in a dark room with her back to the viewer, next to a microscope, looking at monitor showing bright red squares of magnified tissue.\"><figcaption>Dr. Phoebe Stapleton analyzes microplastics in tissue samples. Her lab uses a hyperspectral dark field microscope to identify plastics based on the light reflected by tiny particles. Credit: Kathleen Davis<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Another, more concerning issue in the field is contamination. Research labs are inherently filled with plastic: It\u2019s standard practice to store samples in plastic containers, to use plastic pipette tips, and to wear lab coats and protective gear made with polyester. Regular wear and tear causes micro- and nanoplastics to flake off, a process accelerated when heat, knives, and washing are involved.<\/p>\n<p>A recent study found that flakes shedding from nitrile and latex gloves alone could lead to 2,000 false positives per millimeter squared in a test sample<\/p>\n<p>Every MNP researcher interviewed for this story acknowledged that contamination is a big concern, and labs have had to take a critical look at every step of the research process. They\u2019re replacing plastic with glass and stainless steel, and using lab coats made with natural fibers<\/p>\n<p>Enrico Barrozo at Baylor says contamination and analytical interference are real challenges in the field, but pushes back on criticism that human microplastics studies are invalid<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNo serious group working in human tissues would dispute these concerns,\u201d Barrozo says. \u201cThe problem is the leap from a valid analytical concern to a broad dismissal of human tissue measurements or clinical association studies.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Some micro- and nanoplastic researchers are on a quest to fully remove plastic from their lab work. But that\u2019s a Sisyphean task, because plastic is present in the least obvious places. It\u2019s used as a filler in lab rat bedding, it\u2019s in paint on the walls, and even in mascara a researcher may wear into the lab. Many labs are moving forward by measuring background levels of microplastic contamination\u2014what kinds of MNPs are already present, and to what degree\u2014and accounting for that in research results.<\/p><figcaption>Animal tissue samples from earlier research in Phoebe Stapleton\u2019s lab. \u201cWe do a lot of work in animals, and we want to make sure that we\u2019re respectful to that,\u201d Stapleton says, explaining that they save the tissues in hopes that they can use them to answer as many questions as possible. Credit: Kathleen Davis<\/figcaption><p>In April, a federal announcement set the microplastics field abuzz. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin announced STOMP, Systematic Targeting of Microplastics. The program, through a research agency called ARPA-H, has three goals: to measure, target, and eventually remove microplastics from the human body<\/p>\n<p>Over the next five years, STOMP will fund specially chosen teams of micro- and nanoplastic researchers to unlock these big questions, starting with accurate measurement. These teams will work under tight deadlines and high expectations, with frequent check-ins to share their research progress<\/p>\n<p>Many MNP researchers, including Barrozo and Stapleton, were present for the announcement. They spent the following weeks scrambling to submit their research proposals<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Ileana Hancu, program manager for STOMP, says the nascency of the microplastics field and the small amount of scientific literature on the topic makes it an especially enticing candidate for an ARPA-H initiative<\/p>\n<p>\u201c\u200aFor most everything else that you do, it takes you a year to just understand where the field is,\u201d Hancu says. But that\u2019s not the case for MNPs. \u201cYou spend two to four weeks and you basically read everything there is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Another researcher eager for the opportunity to work with STOMP is Dr. Marcus Garcia, a postdoc at the University of New Mexico College of Pharmacy, and first author on the buzzy human placenta study from 2024<\/p>\n<p>\u201c\u200aI\u2019m glad that the science is finally getting the attention that it needs,\u201d Garcia says. \u201cAnd it\u2019s attention from policymakers and government entities to really see the importance of why we\u2019re doing this research, why we want to push that forward.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Stapleton says a best-case scenario would be if STOMP led to federal limits for the environmental pollution of micro- and nanoplastics. But excitement about STOMP sits alongside another reality: The Trump administration is cozy with the petrochemical industry, and limits on virgin plastic production are unlikely<\/p>\n<h2><b>Our plastic future<\/b><\/h2>\n<p>Last November, on the way to a meeting in Texas, Phoebe Stapleton was one of 16 people on a puddle jumper. To help balance the tiny aircraft, she was asked to sit next to another passenger, a petrochemical research scientist for a major petroleum company. For the next hour and a half, they had a cordial but awkward conversation about their fundamentally opposed professions. His pushback followed familiar lines: Was she confident that nanoplastics were real, and did she really think there were human health effects?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI haven\u2019t heard anyone want more of them in their brain, or in their testicles, or be excited that they\u2019re found in their unborn baby\u2019s space,\u201d Stapleton says. \u201cSo while I respect the idea that we don\u2019t necessarily have a direct linchpin to these human health effects, I haven\u2019t found anyone who thinks it\u2019s a good idea or wants more of them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She believes it\u2019s a matter of time before the petrochemical industry starts pushing back directly on the work of her lab and others. Despite growing public concern about microplastics, global plastic production is expected to nearly triple by 2060<\/p>\n<p>In MNP research labs, animals are often exposed to particle loads far greater than what a human would normally be exposed to in the environment\u201410 milligrams per cubic meter in Stapleton\u2019s lab. While such high exposures will ideally lead to faster answers about health effects, Stapleton says it\u2019s also possible that this load will be more akin to what future humans will be exposed to<\/p>\n<p>\u201cParticle exposure is increasing exponentially,\u201d she says. \u201cI like that it\u2019s not relevant today, because maybe it\u2019s providing a glimpse into our future.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Marcus Garcia, at the University of New Mexico, is particularly concerned about how that increasing exposure is linked to socioeconomic factors<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI come from a background where I\u2019ve had less means, and I know what it\u2019s like to eat meals that are excessively processed,\u201d Garcia says. \u201c[This] has helped me think about the factors behind plastics accumulation, especially with the understanding that we\u2019re seeing higher instances of plastics coming from our food<\/p>\n<figure>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lumeamara.online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Phoebe-Stapleton-small.jpg\" alt=\"A woman with long hair sits back in an office chair, her desk and papers in the background\"><figcaption>Phoebe Stapleton in her office at Rutgers University\u2019s Environmental and Occupational Health Sciences Institute. Credit: Kathleen Davis<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>On her desk, Stapleton has a piece of paper printed with a familiar saying: \u201cGrant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.\u201d It\u2019s an apt mantra for someone who has dedicated their career to researching a pervasive contaminant with no known solution<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m deep enough in to understand that there are exposures everywhere,\u201d Stapleton says. \u201cIf I got caught up in the concern about the lid on take-out coffee I got earlier, then I would just get caught in that never-ending loop.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>There are changes that MNP researchers have made in their own lives: avoiding plastic food containers, and never putting them in the microwave. Throwing out plastic cutting boards and cutlery. But there\u2019s only so much individuals can do to minimize risk<\/p>\n<p>Across the board, the experts interviewed for this story acknowledged that it\u2019s easy for expectant parents to fixate on the risks environmental contaminants may bring to pregnancy. But they agreed that with our current level of knowledge, it\u2019s not worth stressing about the potential harms of microplastics. Especially, as Stapleton points out, because stress and anxiety have their own negative effects on fetal development and maternal health.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe don\u2019t necessarily know what plastic exposure might lead to yet,\u201d she says. \u201cIf we got caught up in all of those what-ifs, then we\u2019d stop moving forward. And I really want to be able to continue moving forward.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Phoebe Stapleton<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Phoebe Stapleton is a toxicologist and microplastics researcher at Rutgers University in New Jersey<\/p>\n<p>More From Guest<\/p>\n<p>[MUSIC PLAYING] FLORA LICHTMAN: Hey, it\u2019s Flora, and you\u2019re listening to Science Friday<\/p>\n<p>Microplastics are hard to escape, both the news about them and the petrochemical crumbs themselves. They\u2019ve been found throughout the human body\u2013 in the heart, the brain, the stomach. Name an organ, and they have probably been found there<\/p>\n<p>But what does this really mean for us and our health? It turns out there are a lot of open questions. Science Friday producer Kathleen Davis got curious about this, and spent the last few months digging into microplastics and what we know about their impact, specifically on reproductive health. Hey, Kathleen<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: Hey, Flora<\/p>\n<p>FLORA LICHTMAN: What led you down this path?<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: Yeah, so I feel like, like a lot of people, I was getting inundated with headlines about microplastics. And, like, they\u2019re freaky. I don\u2019t like the idea of <a href=\"https:\/\/lumeamara.online\/?p=5803\" title=\"Wellness habits you can start today - at no (or little) cost\">little<\/a> pieces of plastic moving around and getting stuck in my body. There was one study that really stuck in my mind, which was from 2024, where researchers studied 62 human placentas after birth<\/p>\n<p>And placentas are super interesting, as I am sure you know, Flora, because they grow really fast, they\u2019re specifically grown to support a fetus, and then they\u2019re delivered during childbirth. And so they can actually be studied, like, in full without harm to the person who birthed it<\/p>\n<p>FLORA LICHTMAN: Yeah, it\u2019s like a weird organ anomaly<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: Exactly, exactly. And so in this study, they found microplastics in every single one of the placentas that they studied. And so I started going down this rabbit hole of micro and nanoplastics in reproductive health. And there are other studies that have found them in testes, in breast milk, in follicular fluid, even something called the meconium, which is a fancy word for baby\u2019s first poop.<\/p>\n<p>FLORA LICHTMAN: So, OK, so I mean, obviously this sounds alarming. Do we know if it\u2019s meaningful? Like, do we know the impacts?<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: The short answer is no, not really. And I really dug into this topic. I talked to 10 different experts on this. And across the board, they were telling me, like, yes, we know that they are in all of these places in our bodies, but we actually don\u2019t know what they\u2019re doing. I mean, based on our level of knowledge, there is a chance that they\u2019re doing nothing. Probably not, but there is that chance because we just don\u2019t know at this point.<\/p>\n<p>FLORA LICHTMAN: What are the challenges to studying this?<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: Yeah, so this is a really young field. We have actually a lot of information about micro and nanoplastics in the environment, but we\u2019ve only been studying them in the human body for, like, 10 years. And so with a new field, it takes a long time to even create the methods for research. I mean, there\u2019s been a ton of effort done to even determine what is a microplastic in a sample versus something else. And those methods still aren\u2019t foolproof.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s also a big concern about contamination in these studies because research labs are just inherently filled with plastic. So making sure that those background levels of microplastics aren\u2019t impacting study results has been a challenge in and of itself. So it\u2019s a challenging new field, and it is a bit of a niche. And then if you break it down even further into the people who are specifically looking at the reproductive health side of things, you are really just looking at a handful of people.<\/p>\n<p>FLORA LICHTMAN: Yeah, that\u2019s really interesting. It makes me wonder what it\u2019s like for people studying this question. Obviously, there are so many unknowns. They\u2019re sort of trying to develop this new frontier of science. How do they think about the risk of microplastics to reproductive health?<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: I mean, that, to me, was the most interesting part of all of this, because to me, as an outsider, it\u2019s an intense topic. It\u2019s a new field. The implications are unsettling. Pregnancy and fertility is already super high-stakes for people, and then you put in this unknown contaminant. It\u2019s just very sensitive<\/p>\n<p>And it also feels extra important because our plastic use is not going away. I mean, we rely on it a ton. And so I wanted to get a sense of how these researchers think about being on the front lines of this work and how they make sense of the fact that there isn\u2019t really a connection to health effects yet<\/p>\n<p>And so I went to the lab of one of the researchers in this space. Her name is Dr. Phoebe Stapleton. She\u2019s at Rutgers University in New Jersey. And she\u2019s specifically studying how microplastics travel <a href=\"https:\/\/lumeamara.online\/?p=5790\" title=\"Sienna Miller talks feeling \u2018euphoric\u2019 during pregnancy in her forties\">during pregnancy<\/a>. And so I talked to her. And here\u2019s a little bit of our conversation<\/p>\n<p>PHOEBE STAPLETON: I think I\u2019m aware that they\u2019re in our matrix and we\u2019re always surrounded by them, but I\u2019m also aware that, at the moment, we don\u2019t have a direct health effect link. And in my mind, we\u2019re in that moment because we just haven\u2019t hit the dose yet that\u2019s going to lead to those health effect outcomes. So what people are being exposed to today, what adults are being exposed to today, they don\u2019t have the bioaccumulation yet to have kicked it over into that pathology.<\/p>\n<p>However, plastic production is increasing exponentially. Where you have production, you have disposal. That\u2019s going to be increasing, if it\u2019s not already. So I think my focus is much more on what I\u2019m putting out into the world, what I\u2019m disposing of, as it compares to what I\u2019m being exposed to right now<\/p>\n<p>And I say that because I was involved in the bottled water study a couple years ago that identified the nanoplastics in a liter of water. So, well aware. There are 250,000 to 400,000 nanoplastics within that liter bottle of water. And that seems like a really big number, and it seems like a really scary number<\/p>\n<p>And I agree with all of those things, except I also realize that those are all invisible. No one recognized that they were being exposed to it prior to those measurements coming. What I am aware of, though, is how many exponential micro and nanoplastic particles would be produced from that liter bottle of water instead. So I think I am working on the aspect to not make such a big plastic footprint myself as much as possible.<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: One thing that\u2019s so interesting to me about this field is that it appears that you\u2019re working on the mechanisms and the standardization from the ground up. It does appear to be so new, in that way. What is it like to be in on the ground floor of this research?<\/p>\n<p>PHOEBE STAPLETON: It\u2019s kind of humbling and exciting to be on the ground floor of that research because that\u2019s the goal of science, is to be on that forefront of knowledge and to be one of the individuals able to put some of those building blocks in, where, OK, we\u2019ve learned this about it, and so either we can be responsible for what the next steps or questions are or somebody else can be responsible for the next steps and questions.<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: What is your lab going to be focused on, you think, in the next, let\u2019s say, like 5 to 10 years? Or what are the big questions you\u2019d really like to explore?<\/p>\n<p>PHOEBE STAPLETON: So many studies in this maternal-fetal space focus on the fetus, or focus on the offspring, for good reason. That\u2019s the next generation. Those are essentially the future. And so understanding what health effects they have is really important<\/p>\n<p>And seeing if we can correlate some of that cardiovascular disease or metabolic disease, it seems that, at the same time that plastics have entered our world, some of these other disease states have entered our world, as well, and have increased. And so just understanding if that is a mathematical comparison, just happens to be that they\u2019re going up at the same time because of other changes, or is there really a scientific reason that we\u2019re seeing increase in some of these cardiovascular and metabolic disease outcomes. So that\u2019s one area.<\/p>\n<p>And then back to the mom, there\u2019s so much that has to change rapidly and precisely when one is pregnant. A 50% increase in blood volume, for example, during pregnancy. And how a woman is able to compensate during pregnancy, and equally as important, how she\u2019s able to compensate after delivery are components that aren\u2019t really well understood yet<\/p>\n<p>And if environmental exposures can affect how she\u2019s recovering, that then affects her health, of course, but also her ability to take care of that newborn, as well. So getting a good handle on what changes for a woman during pregnancy and that postpartum period after, and if we can help in that recovery period, I think those are the directions our lab is looking at<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: For a pregnant person, there are so many potential concerns to be aware of. And I\u2019m sure it can be incredibly overwhelming. How does this fit into that matrix of concerns, and how do you advise them to think about this?<\/p>\n<p>PHOEBE STAPLETON: So I really appreciate that as one of the questions, because I\u2019ve had two kids myself, and that mom guilt is for real. That is a thing. And you second guess every decision that you made before you were pregnant and every decision you made after you find out that you\u2019re expecting. And to some extent, decisions after that, as well<\/p>\n<p>And the same thing applies to this plastic question. And so there\u2019s just, same idea, if you\u2019re spending all of your time and energy focused on this answer, I guess the one thing that I say about that is that we know stress and anxiety during pregnancy has negative effects, that that has concerns for fetal development, maternal health, all of those things<\/p>\n<p>We don\u2019t necessarily know what that plastic exposure might lead to yet. So part of it is being able to work with the knowns, what we do know, making the best decision that you can with the information that you have available to you at the moment, and making new decisions as new information arises<\/p>\n<p>But that mom guilt is a thing. And we know that stress is not good during that pregnancy time, as well. So control the things that are within your wheelhouse, and you\u2019ve got to let some of the other stuff go<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: So that\u2019s just a little bit of my conversation with Dr. Phoebe Stapleton at Rutgers. And I think that\u2019s good advice<\/p>\n<p>FLORA LICHTMAN: OK, Kathleen, what are you keeping an eye on next?<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: Yeah, so interestingly, this has become kind of a MAHA issue. So earlier this year, HHS Secretary RFK Junior and EPA Administrator Zeldin announced this big research initiative that\u2019s going to happen over the next five years. It\u2019s called STOMP, the Systematic Targeting of Microplastics. It is through ARPA-H, which is this federal research accelerator. And there are three main goals here, to measure, target, and then eventually remove microplastics from the human body.<\/p>\n<p>And my  very busy putting in proposals for this. They want to be involved because, in theory, it\u2019s going to set standards for microplastic research that just haven\u2019t existed before<\/p>\n<p>And hopefully, it\u2019s going to advance this research in a way that will also advance our understanding of this issue. So it\u2019ll be really interesting to see what comes out of that. At the same time, our plastic production is set to almost triple by 2060. So I mean, the big question is, is anything going to change?<\/p>\n<p>FLORA LICHTMAN: Science Friday producer Kathleen Davis, thanks for filling us in<\/p>\n<p>KATHLEEN DAVIS: You\u2019re welcome<\/p>\n<p>FLORA LICHTMAN: If you want to read Kathleen\u2019s full story about what we know and don\u2019t know about microplastics and human health, go to our website, sciencefriday.com\/plastics. This story was published with the assistance of the Journalism and Women\u2019s Symposium Health Journalism Fellowship, supported by the Commonwealth Fund<\/p>\n<p>Kathleen Davis did the reporting and producing. And if you\u2019ve got a comment or a question about this or any of our episodes, 877-4-SCIFRI is our number. We\u2019ll catch you next time. I\u2019m Flora Lichtman<\/p>\n<p>[MUSIC PLAYING]<\/p>\n<p><i>Copyright \u00a9 2026 Science Friday Initiative. All rights reserved. Science Friday transcripts are produced on a tight deadline by 3Play Media. 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